Grateful Dead
Oct 21, 1978 at Winterland
San Francisco, CA
Setlist via JerryBase
Set 1
Ollin Arageed1 > Promised Land, Sugaree2, Passenger2, Ramble On Rose, Looks Like Rain, Stagger Lee2, I Need A Miracle2
Set 2
Bertha4 > Good Lovin'4, It Must Have Been The Roses, Estimated Prophet4 > He's Gone4 > Drums5 > Space56 > I Got My Mojo Workin'357 > The Other One3 > Stella Blue3 > Sugar Magnolia35
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